Eric D. Brown, D.Sc.

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Saturn Aura Problem – Update #5

For background, see here, here, here, here and here.

Car has been in the shop for a week now with no response from the dealership. Saturn National Assistance has called me twice and both times have said that they can’t get the dealer’s service department on the line.

My letter demanding Saturn fix this car within 30 days (as per the requirement of Texas Lemon Law) is being mailed today.

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Saturn Aura Problem – Update #4

For background, see here, here, here and here.

The car is back in the shop….waiting to hear from the dealership on the prognosis.

FYI – I’m filing the Texas Lemon Law complaint form very soon.

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Saturn Aura Problem – Update #3

For background, see here, here and here.

I picked up my Saturn Aura today from Saturn of Plano…so far, so good.

I received a call today at ~3:30 telling me that they received the replacement PCM but they had been told by GM not to replace it and to give me my car back without fixing it because they hadn’t fully diagnosed it. Luckily, the Service Manager has a little bit more client focus and forced the issue and the dealership replaced the PCM (so they said…I did see the old PCM…or at least an old PCM).

I guess good ol’ GM doesn’t care that this problem is potentially life-threatening…what would happen if it had stalled and I lost power while driving down the highway?

My next step is to make sure that GM/Saturn Corporate know what a horrible experience this has been and to raise the visibility of this issue (3 trips to the shop with the 3rd trip being a day short of 2 weeks in length).

When I buy a car, I don’t expect to be treated any differently than anyone else…but I do expect the dealership/manufacturer to treat me like they actually cared about my business.  I also trust them to fix the problem…but GM/Saturn has lost that trust now.

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Saturn Aura Problem – Update #2

For background, see here and here.

Received a call Monday afternoon (December 10) and was told that the tool that the dealership was waiting on had arrived and they have narrowed the problem down to the PCM.

They ordered a new part for overnight delivery and would be installing it today (Tuesday).

I’ve been promised a call from the dealership when the part arrives and then later in the day when they have some news on the progress.

Looks like things are moving forward.

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Saturn Aura Problem – Update

Background info is here.

I *think* the shop has it narrowed down to one computer and they are now waiting for a tool to check connectors for that computer. This tool will be in the shop on Monday and I hope to hear something on Monday evening or Tuesday.

On a positive note…I feel like Saturn is actually listening to me now. I was contacted yesterday by Kyle Johnson, Director of Communications from Saturn and he has offered to help look into this issue. Coincidentally (and it my be exactly that) I received a call from the area manager handling my case about 15 minutes after the email from Kyle.

The area manager was quite nice and had much more information for me (e.g., he told me that they had narrowed it down to 1 computer) than the Saturn of Plano Service Tech was communicating to me.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed that I receive a phone call on Monday evening saying that they found the problem.

This is from a poster on the SaturnFans.com forum…if the computer isn’t the problem, this will be the next step that I ask Saturn to try:

…we had a few of these “nightmare” cars in the shop a few months back. After many, many, many hours of testing wires, finding everything ok, driving again to get the vehicle to act up, testing more wires, etc for free since Saturn wasn’t going to pay 10-15 hours to find the problem we found that the fuse block in the trunk on the passanger side had loose bolts where the fuse block bolts to the harness connectors. A month later another car came in with the same concern. We went directly for the fuse block bolts, and a different electrical problem was fixed..My guess is that a different connector at that same fuse block was loose. I think the first 5000 or so vehicles must have left the assembly line with a lower torque spec on those small bolts. We now check every aura’s fuse block bolts in the trunk for proper tightness as part of our inspection when they come off the truck from Tennessee. Besides the very first couple aura’s sold we haven’t had this problem since….Just a flaw for the first few (relatively speaking) off the assembly line. I would start there.

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The perils of buying a Saturn

On August 31 2007 my wife and I bought new cars. She bought a Saturn Vue and I got a Saturn Aura XR. The day was great and we were both excited….

Until about a month later when my Aura died on me. I am now on my 3rd trip into the dealer (Saturn of Plano) and am having difficulties with them actually fixing the car. As of Dec 6, they’ve had the car for 1 week and have done very little with it and have told me that they won’t have a special tool available until Monday Dec 10.

For a car company is known for customer service, they are about as far from it as they can be. The dealership (Saturn of Plano) has done an absolutely poor job all the way around…I’d suggest anyone stay as far away from this dealership as possible.

The entire back-story up until today is provided below for your reading pleasure. I’ll keep updating this daily so check back for more.

Looks like others have had similar problems:

2007 Saturn Aura
Purchased August 31 2007

Oct 3 2007
Service Traction Control warning will display and then car immediately died. Called On-Star and was told 2 hour wait for wrecker to take me to dealership. Was able to get car started, engine light was on while I drove to Saturn of Plano. Service Techs looked at car and said ‘nothing wrong’ and cleared the codes. Drove the car off the lot and it started acting like it was about to die, so turned around and drove back. Service Tech looked at car again and computer was non-responsive. Left car overnight got rental car for evening. Returned to pick up car on Oct 4. Was told that nothing is wrong. Drove car home.

Oct 14 2007
“Service Traction Control” came on and car stalled. Was able to start car.

Nov 4 2007
“Service Traction Control” came on and car almost stalled. Drove car to parking lot and parked it. When I got back in it was fine.

Nov 19 2007
“Service Traction Control” came on and car almost stalled. Drove car to parking lot and parked it. When I got back in and restarted it was fine.

Nov 28 2007
Service Traction Control light came and car almost stalled. Drove car to dealership in the afternoon and left it there.

  • Nov 29 – Returned to dealership and was told that my radar detector was the problem (even though radar detector wasn’t installed when it did this on Oct 14 2007). Was told that they would have to ‘return the car to factory condition before they could go further’. Told them to do whatever they thought the needed to do. Got rental car for the night. NOTE: Radar detector power wire is spliced into the cigarette lighter wire and ground wire is grounded.
  • Nov 30 – I called them. No update/change. Was told that they determined that the Radar detector wasn’t the problem and that they were troubleshooting the problems.
  • Dec 3 – I called them. No update/change.
  • Dec 5 – I called them 4 times throughout the day. Left messages. No response. Called back to speak with General Manager but when I asked to leave voicemail I was put into a voicemail that wouldn’t accept messages. Called Saturn Customer Assistance National. Was told an Area Manager would be looking into it and I would hear from them by 5PM CST on Thursday Dec 6. After talking with Saturn CA, Service Manager from the dealership (Saturn of Plano) called me and told me that he had to order a part to check the computer connectors. The part was supposed to be there that day (Wed Dec 5) but didn’t arrive. Said he would call me by 3PM Dec 6.
  • Dec 6 – Received call from the Service Manager at ~2:15PM. He told me that the part he had ordered hadn’t arrived and that he would receive it on Monday Dec 10. He asked me to come get my car. I told him I would think about it. At 3:30PM I attempted to call to speak with someone but nobody was available. Was on hold for ~5 minutes with no luck. Asked to speak with someone and was forwarded to a phone that rang and rang. I drove to the car lot and talked to a service consultant who repeated what the service manager had said earlier. Service consultant gave me their cell phone number and told me to call whenever I needed assistance. At 5PM CST, have not heard from Saturn Area Manager even though I was told that I would hear from them. Called Saturn CA at ~5:03PM. The Area manager for my case had left for the day and I left a message to have him call me the following day.
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