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	<title>Comments on: If you claim to be agile, then be agile</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Brown</title>
		<link>http://ericbrown.com/if-you-claim-to-be-agile-then-be-agile.htm#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 16:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good question Chris....I don&#039;t know that I have an answer for you other than to manage the vendor closely.

I would think that you’d want the vendor at the scrum meetings….this will help you get a very good feel for what&#039;s happening with the vendor and to ensure that they are tracking closely to what they&#039;ve agreed to do.  I wouldn’t invite the offshore resources to the scrum meetings to start with…you should be able to rely on your vendor to manage that relationship.  You should be able to get a good feeling from the vendor’s communication whether they are managing the offshore resources appropriately.

Not sure that any of this answered your question though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question Chris&#8230;.I don&#8217;t know that I have an answer for you other than to manage the vendor closely.</p>
<p>I would think that you’d want the vendor at the scrum meetings….this will help you get a very good feel for what&#8217;s happening with the vendor and to ensure that they are tracking closely to what they&#8217;ve agreed to do.  I wouldn’t invite the offshore resources to the scrum meetings to start with…you should be able to rely on your vendor to manage that relationship.  You should be able to get a good feeling from the vendor’s communication whether they are managing the offshore resources appropriately.</p>
<p>Not sure that any of this answered your question though.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://ericbrown.com/if-you-claim-to-be-agile-then-be-agile.htm#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,
Where do you draw the line, though? We are engaging a vendor where the manager and her local team are new to Agile methods but eager to learn, but they in turn outsource some development offshore. Should we insist that their offshore developers be at the Scrum meetings, too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,<br />
Where do you draw the line, though? We are engaging a vendor where the manager and her local team are new to Agile methods but eager to learn, but they in turn outsource some development offshore. Should we insist that their offshore developers be at the Scrum meetings, too?</p>
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		<link>http://ericbrown.com/if-you-claim-to-be-agile-then-be-agile.htm#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>blog.henman.ca &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2008-03-05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 05:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Eric Brown</title>
		<link>http://ericbrown.com/if-you-claim-to-be-agile-then-be-agile.htm#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 02:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;ve found is that many vendors bring in &#039;experts&#039; in a methodology during the sales process...that&#039;s when I get worried.  I don&#039;t really want to be sold on the methodology...I want to be sold on the people behind the methodology.  You have good people and you&#039;ll get good results.

The last technology selection project I worked on, I had 4 vendors that I was dealing with. The technology was almost identical with very little feature differences and price was similar.  3 vendors tried to sell me on their &#039;methodology&#039; while the 4th sold me on their people.  I bought from the 4th and the project was a huge success.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;ve found is that many vendors bring in &#8216;experts&#8217; in a methodology during the sales process&#8230;that&#8217;s when I get worried.  I don&#8217;t really want to be sold on the methodology&#8230;I want to be sold on the people behind the methodology.  You have good people and you&#8217;ll get good results.</p>
<p>The last technology selection project I worked on, I had 4 vendors that I was dealing with. The technology was almost identical with very little feature differences and price was similar.  3 vendors tried to sell me on their &#8216;methodology&#8217; while the 4th sold me on their people.  I bought from the 4th and the project was a huge success.</p>
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		<title>By: Scot Herrick</title>
		<link>http://ericbrown.com/if-you-claim-to-be-agile-then-be-agile.htm#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>Scot Herrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good advice, Eric. I&#039;m always amazed, being in technology, how many different methodologies are talked about but never implemented. Same ol&#039; same ol&#039;.

My curiousity: how can a client tell if the vendor is really doing Agile or any other type of methodology? You were expecting Agile, but didn&#039;t get it. What could have been the tip off  before the contract was signed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good advice, Eric. I&#8217;m always amazed, being in technology, how many different methodologies are talked about but never implemented. Same ol&#8217; same ol&#8217;.</p>
<p>My curiousity: how can a client tell if the vendor is really doing Agile or any other type of methodology? You were expecting Agile, but didn&#8217;t get it. What could have been the tip off  before the contract was signed?</p>
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