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	<title>Comments on: Deming had it right 60 years ago</title>
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		<title>By: Eric Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John - Thanks for the comment.  I agree that we don&#039;t need new &quot;fancy&quot; ideas...just execute better.
Great blog BTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John &#8211; Thanks for the comment.  I agree that we don&#8217;t need new &#8220;fancy&#8221; ideas&#8230;just execute better.</p>
<p>Great blog BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Mar 2007 21:49:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I am a &lt;a href=&quot;http://management.curiouscatblog.net/category/deming/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;strong believer in Deming&#039;s ideas&lt;/a&gt; and also that most of what is needed is not new ideas but &lt;a href=&quot;http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/06/10/management-advice-failures/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;better execution of ideas that have been around for a long time&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I am a <a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/category/deming/" rel="nofollow">strong believer in Deming&#8217;s ideas</a> and also that most of what is needed is not new ideas but <a href="http://management.curiouscatblog.net/2006/06/10/management-advice-failures/" rel="nofollow">better execution of ideas that have been around for a long time</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are welcome Charles. It always amazes me to be able to go back to some of the &#039;original thinkers&#039; and realize how relevant their ideas still are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are welcome Charles. It always amazes me to be able to go back to some of the &#8216;original thinkers&#8217; and realize how relevant their ideas still are today.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles H. Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles H. Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jan 2007 15:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric, thanks for this post.  How timely to go back to the basics of Deming, particularly at a time when arms-length, &quot;objective&quot; contracting is at an all-time high.  These days there are clients who seem to feel that &quot;trusted relationships&quot; between seller and buyer are code words for cozy, illicit, price-fixing agreements.  They find their natural allies in those who preach the cost-cutting value of increasing reliance on contracts, and of kicking things to purchasing.
There&#039;s nothing wrong per se with buying through purchasing, but the motives for going there are often suspect.  (And, by the way, it makes for a very tough job for purchasing to deliver on--&quot;find the low-cost provider and make sure they&#039;ve got high quality.&quot;).
I think it&#039;s worth noting your comment that &quot;I cannot think of a single organization that has awarded a contract based on the lowest price and has not suffered in the end.&quot;  I&#039;m not sure I have either; certainly it&#039;s rare in any case.  And therein lies a lesson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric, thanks for this post.  How timely to go back to the basics of Deming, particularly at a time when arms-length, &#8220;objective&#8221; contracting is at an all-time high.  These days there are clients who seem to feel that &#8220;trusted relationships&#8221; between seller and buyer are code words for cozy, illicit, price-fixing agreements.  They find their natural allies in those who preach the cost-cutting value of increasing reliance on contracts, and of kicking things to purchasing.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong per se with buying through purchasing, but the motives for going there are often suspect.  (And, by the way, it makes for a very tough job for purchasing to deliver on&#8211;&#8221;find the low-cost provider and make sure they&#8217;ve got high quality.&#8221;).</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s worth noting your comment that &#8220;I cannot think of a single organization that has awarded a contract based on the lowest price and has not suffered in the end.&#8221;  I&#8217;m not sure I have either; certainly it&#8217;s rare in any case.  And therein lies a lesson.</p>
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